No such thing as a boring groovemeister, rudiment? The cat I used to call Steve God I now call Steve Good. Not just a major topple but now a major yawn. [img]wink.gif[/img]
You can throw a few other guy's in that "when they go off, it is like someone farted in public analogy" we just like to pick on certain guy's I think, and it is easy to justify who and what we like. Everybody has underplayed and overplayed at certain times, that is just the reality. Yeah Vinnie sounds more spontaneous in his blowing and Dave a little more methodical, you can put Virg in the more spontaneous category but one is not more right or wrong. And bottom again we justify what we like. Hey me personally I like the over the barline fireworks, the insanity, I will take it from whoever Virg, Vinnie, Dave bring it on the more the better but that is just me. [img]biggrin.gif[/img] And you are right about Tony Five Eight, the man took alot of chances and that was part of his genius, why I like Virg and Vinnie and Dave and others who are willing to do the same.
I know Virg, Vinnie and others were influenced by that part of Tony's attitude.
Regards Dig
No such thing as a boring groovemeister, rudiment? The cat I used to call Steve God I now call Steve Good. Not just a major topple but now a major yawn. [img]wink.gif[/img]
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Heheh, I always write things that sound a bit rude, I don't mean to be.Originally posted by sashal3:
Hhmm...I'm not sure what you mean by "not getting it." Enlighten me...please!
Well, that refers to the thing about weckls' music being an 'afterthought'. For instance, I don't like metal, so I think it's crap. However, to someone that likes metal, they can hear strong melodies, whereas I can't. So in that respect I don't get it, I don't understand it. Since I like jazz and weckls' music, I hear the melodies as being strong, so I 'get it'. But to someone that doesn't really like jazz or fusion, they just hear the melodies as vague riffs or meandering notes all over the place, when in fact, there's a really nice tune going throughout most of the songs. If that makes any sense [img]confused.gif[/img]
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Haha yeah, I would agree with you there, though his best groove for me is still 'stuff like that', the quincy jones thing from years back. If you wanna hear great groove mixed with some tasty well placed fills, you've just gotta check out some R&B artists, they have ,IMO, the funkiest, grooviest drummers on the planet at the moment. Gerald Heyward, now he's a great groover, and Erik Tribbett, he's another fantastic player. And of course, Garibaldi has always been right up there. Just my 2 cents, I could be wrong of course [img]smile.gif[/img]Originally posted by Five Eight:
No such thing as a boring groovemeister, rudiment? The cat I used to call Steve God I now call Steve Good. Not just a major topple but now a major yawn. [img]wink.gif[/img]
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ January 15, 2004 08:03 PM: Message edited by: Rudy_Ment ]</font>
Anybody who likes Bernard Purdie is okay with me, Rudy. [img]cool.gif[/img]
Yeah about Peart.
His lyrics on "Red Sector A" always shoked me, if u know the background story behind Peart meeting the girl and writing the song u would get it. The keyboard stabs Geddy does towards the end and Peart coming up with the roll fill. Classic. The live version from the Chronicles DVD is awesome, with Neil wearing a red cap backwards and Alex with the white tuxedo.
Respect the man. [img]smile.gif[/img]
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ January 15, 2004 09:59 PM: Message edited by: Bozzio ]</font>
Any1 who likes Purdie, Gadd, Garibaldi, Porcaro, Vega, Erskine, Keltner, Brochu...& Weckl, Vinnie, Novak, Kennedy, Hakim, Husband, Gratton, Todesco, Townsley, AND Virg is OK in my book, too... [img]wink.gif[/img]
"...There's no such thing as a boring groovemeister. If the groove is strong and it moves you, that's as powerful or more so than a bunch of chops. I don't think you have to solo like a virtuoso to shape the music. Bernard purdie on 'home at last', apart from a few fills, just grooves incredibly, and I think that does shape the music. I think he shaped that song.
I love weckl's playing, and IMO he never overplays. He plays a shitload of stuff during every tune, and to me, it all sounds perfect.That's what he's about. He happens to groove like a mofo too. Also, his music is no afterthought. If you don't like his music, you won't get it. If you do like it, you'll hear the tunes. I'll listen to weckl, vinnie, etc for chops, and I'll listen to funk and soul for grooves...."
Here here.
I listen to both, for, well, both.
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ January 15, 2004 10:03 PM: Message edited by: FuseU1 ]</font>
Ah cool, I said the magic words then, purdie and bernard, lol. He is great. [img]graemlins/smarty.gif[/img]
Oh, and yeah, omar hakim. I saw him for the first time playing with weather report in the late 80's, and I was like "oh look at that gorgeous yamaha kit, I gotta have one!" Of course his jaw dropping playing was awesome. I'll never forget his amazing 3/4 groove on D flat waltz.
D Flat Waltz off Domino Theory - oh, freekin heck yeah!!
Don't 4get OH's work on JScofield's Still Warm...Techno, Still Warm, Protocol, Picks & Pans...killer!! *shiver* [AWA the Sting BOTN vid]
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I haven't heard omar with scofield, I bet that's really good. You mentioned sting. Wasn't there some solo that OH did right at the start of the show? I seem to remember something really amazing like that.
I think the OH solo u r referg to is from the Sting tune "Shadows in the Rain" off the "Bring On the Night" live vid...I never owned it but i've seen it a couple of times, years ago...i couild be wrong, tho...I'm sure some1 here has it & will correct or verify...
GET John Scofield's STILL WARM if u dig OH's drumming!!!!! It REALLY is stupendous.... [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img]
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